This is my interview with author and historian Dr. James Gelvin, professor of Middle Eastern history at UCLA.

The episode is centered around the Israel and Palestine conundrum, but touches upon the rich and ancient culture of the region known as Palestine and the recent normalization of relations that the Trump administration announced with the state of Israel.

There's also a detour into the state of the Middle East as a whole, if the Arab spring has run dry, how the middle east is the most food insecure region in the world, which segued into how neo-liberal policies create much civil and economic unrest.

Along with thought provoking ideas on revolutions and nationalism.

The Israel-Palestine Conflict: One Hundred Years of War -

The New Middle East: What Everyone Needs to Know -